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lisa beard
3/28/2017 07:44:10 pm
Blog #3: The War That Forged a Nation - Chapters 6, 5,2
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Patrick Tolman
4/19/2017 02:21:21 pm
Economics seems to be one of those factors that plays a role in every war and so I was surprised to read about France and Britain remaining largely neutral in this war in spite of the economic impact it was having, especially on Britain's textile industry. This economic factor nearly caused Britain to take a firm side as they helped produce warships. I appreciate your final statement however as my opinion echoes yours that even though we have discussions or arguments about what war was worse or was the war a total war or not they are all ultimately devastating.
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Lisa Beard
4/19/2017 08:52:16 pm
Yes, totally agree Patrick, war is costly no doubt, so like you, it is surprising that others were able to stay neutral when being affected the way they were industrially. The production of war ships seems it would have forced Britain to take a side. Had that happened, we may have seen a much different war end result. Either way, yes, still all very devastating.
Janica
4/19/2017 02:48:21 pm
- When Du Pont read these words, he wondered what Fox was smoking when he wrote them. - Wow! I must admit that this statement got me a bit off the subject and sent me scurrying to the web to find out what was smoked during that time; I had no idea. I found it interesting to read that Fox could have possibly been on laudanum, cocaine, and even arsenic during this time. Ok, a bit off the subject except it points to the fact that Du Pont was already doubting himself and Secretary Fox. This war proves that risk takers were needed to win this war and I wonder if that still stands today? Case in point, McClellan, who did what others feared could not be done. I liked this chapter, because it really pointed out that the attitude of the commanders really did make the difference. Du Pont spent his time worried about newspaper criticism, while Farragut was busy taking New Orleans and “silencing Confederate guns” in twenty minutes. I could just see him calming watching this dangerous scene as if he were at a summer picnic sipping lemonade to the chagrin of his men worried about his safety. Celerity was truly Farragut’s middle name.
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Lisa Beard
4/19/2017 08:58:40 pm
Janica, You really pointed out some things that I missed here. I guess that is the point of all of this - always learning. I think in most cases the risk taker is what sets everything in motion; without risk, there is no change. "Wicked" war indeed - every war is, but this one, probably more so than most I feel. It is one thing to kill your enemy - another to kill your own.
Janica
4/21/2017 05:32:05 pm
Lisa, I couldn't help but see that you too picked up on the "wicked war" statement by Grant and that you ended it with the idea that war is devastating. This would be a great lesson plan to just throw out the question about if any war is justified? Could the slaves possibly have any different take on that than the Mexican citizens? What was the common denominator in these two situations?
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Cindy Ness
4/3/2017 11:45:22 am
When I teach the Mexican American War, I begin the discussion by sharing with my students "Yertle the Turtle" by Dr. Seuss, it allows me to discuss with students the cost of the Mexican American war, both to Mexico and the United States. This is a hard one to teach, because no matter how I shake it I can't justify it. Some years ago I read a text entitled Eagles and Empire. It's a great text on the Mexican American War, in any case the author argues that had the US not aggressively fought for Mexico, it is likely large states in Mexico would have voluntarily fought for their independence and then later been annexed by the U.S. (like Texas) as Mexico's government in the mid-nineteenth century was unable to govern itself. Our invasion of Mexico in 1848, like our invasion of Canada in 1812, basically made the nation. Mexico became Mexico and Canada became Canada, precisely because our invasions forced unity upon them. What if we had waited, and allowed nature to take it's course.....? Another what if of history.
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Lisa Beard
4/19/2017 09:03:00 pm
Cindy, Now I am going to have to go search out "Yertle the Turtle" for some more innovative teaching ideas. I often use Dr. Seuss books in my classes. If you find it difficult to teach this unit, I have to say, I am glad I don't have to. I think like everything though, everything seems to get down to "what if"...
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Janica
4/21/2017 05:28:29 pm
Cindy,
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Patrick Tolman
4/19/2017 10:32:39 am
Blog #3 The Players - Chapters 2, 5, and 6
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Erin OBrien
4/19/2017 02:49:17 pm
I couldn't agree more that as a student of history I am loving these connections between events that while I knew about them individually I never really put them all together in the context of causing or fueling the Civil War. But on top of all that there were times reading through this information that I knew if I presented this information in my US II class that students would get so bogged down in the details that they also wouldn't be able to see how the puzzle all fits together creating the Civil War. What I'm struggling with is I do want my students to see the bigger picture and realize this war was caused and fought for so much more than just slavery so how do I give them context without overcomplicating the information? It's hard at high school level trying to figure out what students can and can not handle, a college course of course give all the information but here it seems a bit much.
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Janica
4/19/2017 07:24:07 pm
Patrick,
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Lisa Beard
4/19/2017 09:18:11 pm
Janica, I love how you said, "We can color it any way that we want, but death always brings to mind greys and blackness due to the unavoidable death and destruction that come with war." II also liked Patrick's phrase "dilute background information" because of too much context. I agree in that sometimes things need to be sorted through and broken down before understanding can happen. With understanding comes questioning. When students begin to question and draw their own conclusion from what they have understood - learning has happened.
Lisa Beard
4/19/2017 09:11:08 pm
Patrick, I have said repeatedly throughout this study, if I have learned anything, it is that I knew nothing about history, and everything I thought I knew, was somewhat wrong. As an English teacher, I am really out of my comfort zone on all of this, but I guess that is what learning is all about, and how learning happens. Like you, I never knew the gold rush entered into any of this. It was actually nice to read of something that I had a little bit of knowledge in. I like your last thoughts a lot of ways to present material to students. I think there is a lot to be learned through collaboration, investigating/researching, and developing the ability to respect other viewpoints.
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Daron Gatherum
5/15/2017 06:39:35 am
I agree that in teaching U.S. history II that I do not give as much attention to the Civil War as I should. These chapters have opened my eyes as well to how much more complex this war was. It was not just North against South fighting for States Rights and slavery. I have never covered the War with Mexico as a leading event to the Civil War. The other event that I have never attached to the Civil War is the California Gold Rush. Prior to reading these chapters I had never attached the two. My question is, how much attention should be given to these events in a U.S. History II course? I am constantly breezing over material to "fit" everything in. Any thoughts?
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Erin OBrien
4/19/2017 02:43:32 pm
Again I found it be really interesting and new to me how much the west played a role in a war usually taught to be North vs. South. The fact that the California Gold Rush was bringing so many people from all over the nation and world they needed to build a railroad across the nation to support the migration, so much so that California had about double the population they needed to be considered for state status which would start the debate in Congress of equality between the number of free states vs. the number of slaves states which of course is going to spark debates all over the nation when it comes to territories being considered for statehood. But what I found to be the most interesting when it comes to this particular topic of major players in the Civil War is the role of Europe specifically France and Great Britain. I was always under the impression (and if I’m being honest I don’t know from where) that France and Great Britain wanted to stay out of the conflict solely hoping the two countries would tear each other apart in the hopes of recolonizing the region. So because of this chapter I was really forced to change my interpretation of Europe’s actions during this time. With all that being said and my taking in my original thinking into considering it is so simple and interesting that their motives for staying out of the conflict were either economical of militarily big picture. They were struggling without the South’s cotton so they wanted to get involved but when they had the opportunity to either break the Anaconda Plan of the North blockading the South or allowing the South to build ships in French shipyards they had to consider that if they broke these flimsy blockade then their future blockades could be considered just as flimsy. It is always interesting to read about Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson, and Ulysses S. Grant, but these hidden less taught Civil War players was refreshing to see the bigger picture of the size of the Civil War.
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Janica
4/21/2017 05:22:50 pm
I too figured France and Great Britain stayed neutral because of higher morals, but realized as well that it was self-interest at play here. I wonder where the Anaconda Plan name came from? Just a side thought... You know it would be fun to have the students to act out being Britain, France, and both the North and the South. They could stuidy the reasons why each did what the did and then have an open debate with each student representing the countries opinions and fighting for what was financially and economically best for that particular country. Might be interesting.
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Andrew Spratt
5/16/2017 07:41:32 am
That's a great point that France and Britain weren't really considering the ethical problems of the war. I think that when we look back we tend to attribute our own personal ethical views on most everyone at the time, but in the end it's just politics and national self-interest.
Kyler Bingham
4/26/2017 05:20:40 pm
So true Erin! The West had many direct and indirect effects on the war. The understanding that the West would eventually be settled and a part of the country had a definitive impact.
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Paul Noble
4/20/2017 08:56:42 am
Blog #3, The Players (Chapters 2, 5, 6):
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Janica
4/21/2017 06:08:56 pm
It is often very difficult for us living in quiet little towns, sipping our Star Bucks to appreciate the horrors that war (past and current) brings to society. It is very uncomfortable for us to think about, which is why this topic has not really been taught in the past. Because of television news footage and the media of today, sadly we hear of these atrocities. I can see that you too mentioned this topic in your blog. I can only imagine how much more information we would have about the Civil war had Anderson Cooper or Katie Couric been on the job?
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Kyler Bingham
4/23/2017 03:47:43 pm
BLOG #3
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LeeAnn Hyer
5/4/2017 02:20:36 pm
Kyler,
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LeNina Wimmer
5/9/2017 07:02:43 pm
Kyler,
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Kim Ball
4/28/2017 09:17:15 pm
Blog #3
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LeNina Wimmer
4/30/2017 03:38:00 pm
Kim,
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Kim Ball
4/30/2017 08:31:36 pm
LeNina -
LeNina Wimmer
4/30/2017 03:32:50 pm
Blog #3: The players
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Daron Gatherum
4/30/2017 09:03:30 pm
As I read these assigned chapters I, like some of you, realized that I have not done a very good job teaching some of the key events leading up to the Civil War. I teach U.S. History II and therefore do not spend a lot of time covering the back story of the conflict. I assume that my students have a solid background and understanding from their 8th grade experience. One of the reasons I love opportunities like this class provides is to enhance my knowledge. I constantly find myself taking what I am reading for this course and taking it back to my students. Chapter 2 was very eye opening for me. I do teach about the gold rush by have never brought in the politics of slavery and how the gold rush could have played a role in the civil war. I have always taught the importance of admitting California as a free state and the Compromise of 1850 as a way to keep the balance of free and slave states in congress. I never thought about what the economic impact that slavery could have had on the miners. The statement that most Forty-Niners were against slavery not because of moral principle, but because they did not want to compete with slave labor. According to a Southern newspaper, "There is no vocation in the world in which slavery can be more useful and profitable than in mining." This is a concept that now makes perfect sense, but prior to reading the text had never occurred to me.
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Amy Dalley
5/11/2017 11:06:53 am
I liked what you wrote about not teaching the events that lead up to the Civil War. When teaching WWII it is so important to begin with the treaty of Versailles that ended WWI. I find it interesting that so many people are fascinated about the Civil War, but not many know all of the causes.
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LeeAnn Hyer
5/1/2017 09:07:06 am
Blog #3
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Melinda Reay
5/7/2017 03:15:43 pm
LeAnn,
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Andrew Spratt
5/1/2017 02:43:07 pm
s I read through the chapters on the various parties involved in the Civil War, the persistent thought I had was that war is a terrible way to resolved conflicts. I kept thinking about how arbitrary war is, and yet how inevitable as well. In reading about the problems that developed in the wake of the Mexican-American War, particularly the concerns over California’s admission to the Union as a free state and the subsequent political fighting (even leading to fistfights and duels) it became clear that a large-scale conflict on the issue of slavery could hardly have been avoided. And yet, once the war began it seems as though the ultimate victor was simply a matter of luck. If Britain and France had chosen to recognize the Confederacy’s independence, or had challenged the Union blockade, or permitted the construction of more Confederate ships, the war may have gone very differently. The North didn’t win because they had the moral high ground, or because God intended for slavery to be abolished and the Union preserved. They won because of good luck, fortunate political circumstances, and a seemingly arbitrary advantage in troops and industry.
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Kim Ball
5/1/2017 06:57:18 pm
Andrew -
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Melinda P Reay
5/1/2017 08:31:12 pm
Blog 3 - The War That Forged a Nation, Chapters 2, 5, 6
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Amy Dalley
5/10/2017 10:33:48 am
This is only my second year teaching US history II so I really became the student while reading these chapters. One thing I love about history and try to stress to my students is everything is somewhat hinging upon everything else. I know that sounds like a verbal riddle, but these chapters showed how the California Gold Rush, The Mexican American War, and Manifest Destiny all were players in pre Civil-War politics.
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